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Poster: CatfishBomb Date: Mar 22, 2010 7:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Mountain Jam -> Alligator

This has probably been brought up before and I have not been able to successfully use the search function...

so here goes...

I was listening to Anthem of the Sun on the way into work... in particular Alligator. I noticed, at the 9-9:05 mark of the song, a passage that reminded me of Mountain Jam from the Allman's Eat a Peach...

Anyone else hear/ notice this? Am I off base here? This discovery certainly made my morning! Was this an inspiration for the Allmans?

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Mar 22, 2010 11:07am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mountain Jam & Alligator

Though it's more fun to find them on your own - sometimes help comes in handy.
http://deadessays.blogspot.com/2010/01/deads-early-thematic-jams.html

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 22, 2010 7:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mountain Jam -> Alligator

Yep; been over it many times here...someone will link the prior threads in a jiffy I will wager. Donovan is first, DEAD are second, ABB are third, if we go in strict chrono order, if I have it straight. As to who influenced whom, not sure we ever decided if any casuality is involved...anyone?

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Mar 22, 2010 8:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mountain Jam -> Alligator

From the Grateful Dead Family Discography:

"Mountain Jam

Composer: Donovan / Grateful Dead / Almman Brothers Band

Mountain Jam is a jam based on the Donovan song There Is A Mountain which was performed a number of times by the Grateful Dead. Initial use of the tune within a jam is thought to have been in the early part of 1968. Lengthy jams based on the tune were played in 1970 and once in 1973, the latter with members of the Allman Brothers and The Band.

The Allman Brothers Band also developed an instrumental piece based on the Donovan song which was called Mountain Jam. It is thought that they introduced this piece after hearing the Grateful Dead incorporate the song into a jam.

The Allman Brothers Band played their version of Mountain Jam with Jerry Garcia sitting in, on December 31, 1973 and also with Jerry Garcia and Bob Weir sitting in on July 17, 1972 at Gaelic Park, Bronx, NY."


Earliest ABB performance of MJ I know of is 5-4-69.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 22, 2010 8:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mountain Jam -> Alligator

There you go; Don-->DEAD-->ABB; or perhaps, Don-->DEAD + Don-->ABB, though I favor the former, as your article strongly suggests too...

Regardless, to me, it is one of my top ten "guitar" tune sequences, to coin a poor phrase, but assume one and all know what I mean...it stuck with me the first time I heard it, via the DEAD, and then even more with ABB (since they really expanded it), much moreso than Don's little ditty (as nice a tune as that is as well).

Sorta like Spoonful intro for me, or TYCWell...certain guitar sequences really impact you in your youth (at least I find that was the case moreso than now) and stay with you forever...

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Poster: CatfishBomb Date: Mar 22, 2010 8:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mountain Jam -> Alligator

Thanks! This made my morning!

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Poster: cosmic charlie dupree Date: Mar 22, 2010 8:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mountain Jam -> Alligator

Catfish - Even though this is a well-trodden Forum topic, there is nothing like discovering it on your own! I had the same experience 2 years ago, and I'm sure you'll agree it's much more fun than learning it through a book or a post. Cheers!